ND: America Ferrera's entire monologue in barbie, whether you liked it or not, that's pretty much it. What remains to be done for Greta? Lady Bird, she's nominated for Best Director, which I think is a phenomenal film and very well done across the board. With Little woman, she takes a story that everyone knows and every time I watch it again, I'm so impressed with how she was able to tell it. Some of the shot structures, like the shot-by-shot recreations of SPOILER, Beth's death in the past and present, were incredible to me. And then that still didn’t justify a nomination. In your opinion, now Greta goes and does barbie, which is now different from what she did because it is a more “commercial” film. She and Christopher Nolan brought people back to the movies for “Barbenheimer.” Christopher totally deserved his nomination, but how do you get only half of this great moment in this category?
This is not my favorite Greta Gerwig storyline. On the staging side, she subtly achieved barbie as an ode to old Hollywood films, with references to The Wizard of Oz, Sing in the rain, and more. The way his mind worked to bring him together truly made him one direction movie for herin my opinion.
NEW JERSEY: It's interesting that you mention the references inside barbie to other films, because usually industry stuff is catnip for the Oscars. I wonder if, because it's presented in a very fun, accessible way that doesn't take itself too seriously, it conflicts with other things we've historically seen won at the Oscars.
I can feel people will say, Well, who do you think shouldn't have been nominated for Best Director? For me, the most important thing is to point out that it's okay to see Ryan Gosling get more individual nominations than Greta Gerwig and to thinkIt doesn't leave a good taste in my mouth.